Pending Investigation
https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/ledford/682/ A cousin has also made a discovery concering the David Ledford Jr that
you spoke of.Although he was living in the home of David Ledford Sr and
Jane Barnes in 1850, he appears rather to be a nephew than a son, as
David and Jane didn't have a son David's age according to the 1840
census.(this really messed things up for my lineage *g*) -Paul Selk _______________________________________________________________
Ledford
, David A. http://www.nps.gov/civilwar/search-soldiers-detail.htm?soldierId=851790B2-DC7A-DF11-BF36-B8AC6F5D926A
- Side:
- Confederacy
- Company:
- E
- Soldier's Rank In:
- Private
- Soldier's Rank Out:
- Private
- Alternate name:
- Film Number:
- M230 ROLL 23
- Plaque Number:
- Notes:
-
none
39th Regiment, North Carolina Infantry
Overview:
39th Infantry Regiment was organized at Camp Patton, Asheville, North Carolina, in July,
1861, as a five company battalion. In November the unit moved to "Camp Hill" near Gooch
Mountain where it was increased to eight companies. In February, 1862, it was ordered to
Knoxville, Tennessee, where two more companies were added. Its members were from the
counties of Cherokee, Macon, Jackson, Buncombe, and Clay. The 39th took part in the
Cumberland Gap operations, then saw action in the Battle of Perryville. Assigned to Walthall's,
McNair's, and Reynold's Brigade, it fought with the Army of Tennessee from Murfreesboro to
Atlanta, then endured Hood's winter campaign in Tennessee. In 1865 it shared in the defense of
Mobile. This regiment lost 2 killed, 36 wounded, and 6 missing at Murfreesboro and had 10 killed, 90
wounded, and 3 missing at Chickamauga. During the Atlanta Campaign, May 18 to
September 5, it reported 16 killed, 57 wounded, and 10 missing. On May 4, 1865, it surrendered.
The field officers were Colonel David Coleman, Lieutenant Colonels Hugh H. Davidson and
Francis A. Reynolds, and Major T.W. Peirce.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.blindpigandtheacorn.com/blind_pig_the_acorn/2015/06/wc-penlands-fellow-soldiers.html "The first time I ever read the Civil War letters written by W.C. Penland several things jumped out at me.
- I was struck by the knowledge that he lived and walked in places I know intimately.
- My heart was torn by the longing for home that weaved it's way through every last letter he wrote.
- I was beyond impressed by his skillful handwriting.
- My eyes and mind were pricked by the abundance of surnames in the letters that are still abundant in this area 150 years later.
Don Casada took the time to write down all the names mentioned in
W.C.'s letters. The list contained family members as well as members of
W.C.'s company of soldiers. The image at the top of this post is a
screen shot of the list. Don has noted if the individual was a fellow
soldier of W.C'.s or a family member. He also listed the cemetery where
the individual is buried.
In the Civil War most soldiers signed up and served with their
neighbors and friends. This made it a certainty that W.C.'s family knew
the men he wrote about in his letters.
W.C. mentions Big Jason Ledford in more than one of his letters. The
first time I read the name I thought to myself "Hmmph I bet there's a
Big Jason Ledford living in Clay County right now." The Ledford surname
is beyond common in both Clay and Cherokee County North Carolina today.
While researching, Don discovered there were actually 2 Jason
Ledfords serving with W.C. And a total of 10 Ledfords in the company. In Don's own words:
"It turns out that there were two Jason Ledfords who served in
William Patton Moore's company. Both enlisted in Hayesville on the same
day (July 5, 1862). Jason W. Ledford was 27 years old, while Jason
Ledford was 34. There are a couple of records for 34-year old
Jason which list him as Jason Big Ledford or Jason (Big) Ledford. The
use of "Big" was apparently a standard convention to distinguish the
two."
Paul Sink posted this photo
on Find A Grave. It's of Jason W. Ledford on left; Elisha Mac Ledford
on right. Don's research also showed Jason W. Ledford came back home,
married Harriet Hogsed in 1881 and moved to Colorado.
More from Don:
"At least four of the Ledfords who were in the company are buried at
Old Ledford Chapel Cemetery. Elisha Mac, mentioned above has Confederate
States marker as does Daniel M. Ledford. At least two, David and Jason
"Big" Ledford apparently switched sides. Their grave markers both have
them in the 2 NC Mounted Infantry, which was a Union outfit. Several
genealogies in Ancestry.com have Jason "Big" as a brother to David.
Center Ledford, definitely a brother of David (per census records), has a
Confederate marker (Company F, 65th NC Regiment - which is the WP Moore
company) on his grave, which is at Philadelphia Baptist Church Cemetery
in Hayesville." A few months ago, the girls and I tagged along with Don and his wife as
they tried to document a few of the graves from the list at the top of
this post. We found Big Jason Ledford, right where he was supposed to be
in the Old Ledford Chapel Cemetery.
David was there too-even if he's not Jason's brother he's surely related in a close manner. Also in the same cemetery is the beautiful rugged marker above. Jason
David born 1798; died 1889 - Nancy Elizabeth born 1807; died 1890 -
Original Settlers.
Jason Ledford, David Ledford. The names were in Clay County in the
1700s, and the 1800s, and the 1900s. One of my closest friends is
married to a David Ledford and they reside in Clay County today. And I'm
positive if I searched all over Clay County surely I'd find at least
one Jason Ledford. So I can add the 2000s to the list.
That's a lot of years for a family to live in the same general
location. The story of Big Jason Ledford no doubt has to include the
horror of the Civil War, but for me the brightest part of his story is
the longevity of his family line. I like to think about all those
generations passing down the traditions and culture of Appalachia.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Ledford
, David http://www.nps.gov/civilwar/search-soldiers.htm?submitted=1&firstName=David&lastName=Ledford&stateCode=NC&multiselect=NC&warSideCode=U&battleUnitName=
- Side:
- Union
2nd Regiment, North Carolina Mounted Infantry
Overview:
Organized at Knoxville, Tenn., October, 1863. Attached to 1st
Brigade, Willcox's Division, 9th Army Corps, Left Wing Forces, Dept.
Ohio, to April, 1864. 1st Brigade, 4th Division, 23rd Army Corps, Dept.
Ohio, to February, 1865. 1st Brigade, 4th Division, District of East
Tennessee, Dept. of the Cumberland, to August, 1865.
Service:Ordered to
Greenville, Tenn., to October 16, 1863, and duty there till November 6.
Moved to Bull's Gap November 6, and duty there till December. March
across Clinch Mountains to Clinch River. Action at Walker's Ford
December 2. Gibson's and Wyerman's, Miss., February 22, 1864. Duty at
Cumberland Gap and patrol duty in East Tennessee till April, 1865.
Scout from Cumberland Gap January 23-27, 1865. Expedition from East
Tennessee into Western North Carolina March 21-April 25, 1865. Moved to
Boone, N.C., April 6, and to Asheville, N.C., April 27-30. Duty in
North Carolina and East Tennessee till August. Mustered out August 16,
1865.
(A Search for Jason Ledford, NC, Union lists No Soldiers)
Ledford
, Jason Big http://www.nps.gov/civilwar/search-soldiers-detail.htm?soldierId=AE1790B2-DC7A-DF11-BF36-B8AC6F5D926A
- Side:
- Confederacy
- Company:
- B
- Soldier's Rank In:
- Private
- Soldier's Rank Out:
- Private
- Alternate name:
- Film Number:
- M230 ROLL 23
- Plaque Number:
- Notes:
-
General Note - See also 7 Batt'n. N.C. Cav.
Ledford
, Jason Big http://www.nps.gov/civilwar/search-soldiers-detail.htm?soldierId=AF1790B2-DC7A-DF11-BF36-B8AC6F5D926A
- Side:
- Confederacy
- Company:
- B
- Soldier's Rank In:
- Private
- Soldier's Rank Out:
- Private
- Alternate name:
- Film Number:
- M230 ROLL 23
- Plaque Number:
- Notes:
-
General Note - See also 6 N.C. Cav.
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- Hicks/Hix - Ledford Info:
- http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.hicks/1447/mb.ashx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ https://www.ancestry.ca/boards/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=884&p=surnames.ledford written by: Paul Selk
As far as can be told, Peter Ledford Sr was married only once. There
doesn't seem to be any gaps in census records as if his wife had died,
nor is there a change in her age. The real confusion comes from her
name.
Until the last couple of decades, Peter's wife was known
only as N.Y., those are the letters inscribed on her grave marker, with
the date of death given as Jun 24 1844. The question is, what does NY
stand for? I have a very good close-up picture of the stone, and will
make this one comment about the letters, there is a dot after the Y, but
none was put between the N and the Y, as if it was an abbreviation, not
initials. If the is the case, then Nancy or Nanny comes to mind.
I'm
not sure when the new stone was placed for Peter and his wife,
Nathaniel Browder didn't mention it in his book written in the
mid-1970's, so sometime between then and 1987 when I started researching
Ledfords. This new stone proposed her name to be Martha Y. Thomas,
died June 24 1828. I am assuming this name and date are from the
research of a Mr. Garland, but perhaps Lawrence Wood, another researcher
from the Macon County area, is the source. Both gentlemen are
deceased, so perhaps someone familiar with Ledford research in the
1980's could help with the origin of that info.
First thing's
first. whether the name on her stone are initials or an abbreviation,
the first letter is N, so Martha really doesn't fit. Secondly, in 1828,
Peter and his wife were living in the newly formed county of Macon.
Since at that point Macon took in what is now Clay county, it is
possible that they were living where they were buried, but, the 1830
census shows Peter and his wife [still living] in the proximity of Lewis
VanDyke, whose store was in the vicinity of the Little Tennessee River,
I'm guessing near modern Franklin. She's also shown still living in
1840. So, these two fact, her name didn't start with M, and her death
date is wrong, not just by a month or year, but 16 years and tens of
miles, should make anyone view that information, and the whole grave
stone, with suspicion.
Next item, Annie Tucker. The source of
the name Annie Tucker is known. Elbert Burton Ledford, born about 1824,
stated in 1890's that his father's parents were Peter Ledford and Annie
Tucker. His son repeated this. This was to an Indian Enrolling Agent,
which makes people suspicious, but if you read the reports, Elbert and
his sons were claiming Cherokee blood through Peter or his wife, they
made it clear that they got their blood from Elbert's mother, Jerusha
Pittman. It was also noted that Elbert signed the statement in the
1890's, but when he reapplied in 1908 he signed with a mark. At that
time he had changed Peter's wife's name to Annie Conacene [or Conseenah]
and was claiming through her. That was noted by the agent, whose
determination was that Elbert's earlier statement was the correct one,
Peter's wife was Annie Tucker, not Conseenah, and someone was trying to
pull a fast one [noting that this new statement was signed with a mark].
In all of the Indian pensions, her name is given as Ann/Annie.
Unlike
"Martha", this is actually a closer match to the gravestone, since Ann
and Nancy are interchangeable names. According to Webster's Dictionary,
Nancy is actually short for Anne.
Tucker, was that her name?
Well, there's no way of knowing right now, but there are indications
that Elbert knew what he was talking about, though circumstantial. In
1768, the Rowan county tax list for the Deep River, Carraway Creek
section lists William Ledford living with Samuel Tucker. This William
Ledford was son of John Ledford Sr (born c1720) and older brother of
Peter G. Ledford Sr. This William had moved to South Carolina before
1790.
I don't know who the father of Samuel Tucker was, there
were two gentlemen in Rowan county at the time, George Tucker and Robert
Tucker, both the right age, but George wasn't his father, so it could
have been Robert. Then there was James Tucker, who was born farther
east in North Carolina in the late 1760's, moved to Randolph County as a
child with his father, Robert Tucker (the same as above), and served in
the Revolution from there. He moved to Monroe County, TN in 1824 where
he remained the rest of his life. Absolom Ledford also moved to Monroe
County, TN about 1824, from where he was living on Pigeon River in
Haywood county, next door to Peter's son Eli. Peter's other son, Peter
Jr also went to Monroe in the 1820's, and another son, Jason D., joined
him there for a short time in the 1830's. Those three sons were back in
Cherokee County, NC by 1840.
It's all coincidental, but
considering Elbert was twenty when his grandmother died, he should have
known at least her first name. Elbert's father, Levi, was living right
next door to Peter in the 1840 census; and there does appear to be some
sort of connection between the Tuckers and Peter and his brother.
By
the way, even though there is a close relationship between Absolom
Ledford and the children of Peter, it should not be mistaken that
Absolom was a son of Peter's, Absolom was born c1790/2, and Peter only
had two children born in the 1790's, Peter Jr and Levi.
Anyway,
sorry to be so long winded. I hope this will help to sort things out.
The only official document that I have seen to date is the affidavit
made by Peter's grandson as to his grandmother's name. This was done
some 50 years after her death, by a man who was born, if not next door,
then just down the road. Considering he wasn't trying to get money for
her, I don't see anything amiss, and when the focus did change to trying
to get money for her, only her last name changed.
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